Paint Colours

[guy mayers]

Can anyone tell me a paint code used for the red on the Pirelli cars? I need to get a sample to check it's darker than the current red on my car before ordering a decal set for the Winter Project!
Come to think of it, a black and white code would be useful as well but not as critical!
Thanks
Guy

[guy mayers]

I have finally managed to get somewhere with paint colours, though not 100% there yet! The text of an email I received tonight might explain!

"Guy
pirelli color specs as x brand guidelines

-using 4 color process pirelli red= 100% magenta + 100% yellow

-pirelli yellow is Pantone 109

what background are you using for logo? red logo on yellow?
white logo on red?
there are other few allowed

send car picture when finished"


So, is anyone familiar with a 4 colour process using 100% magenta and 100% yellow? Where can I get a sample that I can take to my paint man to match to a colour code??

Cheers
Guy

[mogul_x]

Guy,

Never heard of a 4-color process being used for automotive paints. It's fairly typical with printing presses though. They use four inks (yellow, magenta, cyan, and black) applied in different proportions to acheive any color desired. If you look on the tabs of a cereal box, or other full color cardboard container, you can usually see the 4 colors printed separately on test marks.

Near as I can tell, I think 100% yellow and 100% magenta means that you're laying down as much of that color as possible during that stage of the printing. Lower percentages are used to get a lighter shade, and black is added to get a darker one. I'm guessing that this only applies if you are printing on a white background.

I couldn't find any tables correlating 4 color printing to pantone color guides online. You may need to contact a reputable printing company to get a color swatch.

[guy mayers]

Thanks Scott, I will try that line on enquiry! The guy came back to me and is sending some colour swatches but he also confirmed that there was no Pantone colour equivalent for the red. I guess I'll just take the colour swatch and a printers sample and match it as best I can.
Guy

[ANDYG]

Guy,
100% Magenta and 100% Yellow will give you as near as dammit Pms 485, a bright red. If you require samples of those colours - let me know.

[Andrew Way]

Basic red is Pantone 032, it's what I spec. for our company logo on silk screened panels.

[CorseChris]

I'd like to see it plotted on a chromaticity chart myself.... :D :D

[chris.richard]

Whatever happened to "any colour as long as it's black"?:)

[ANDYG]

Henry Ford died a long time ago!

[maseratighibli]

Guy, never heard of the four colour process in the automotive industry but if the codes are impossible to obtain, the other option is to get an actual sample of something the right colour(s), beg, borrow , steal or whatever...........I could then "colour map" it at work and provide you with a code that matches that colour.

Gareth

[guy mayers]

Thnaks for the offer Gareth, the four colour process is something the printing industry is familiar with. I will be organising the decals for my car towards the end of the months and if the guys in Italy don't understand then I will take you up on your kind offer!
Guy