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catswhiskers
December 3rd, 2007, 07:17 AM
Sad to hear that Steve Perez has been injured in a crash on the Safari. Not only that but he had to drive about 140km to get treatment. :eek:
Top Man.
Wishing him a speedy recovery. :)


http://www.britishrally.co.uk/rally/viewtopic.php?t=11904


Mick

roger001
December 3rd, 2007, 02:18 PM
Note his coment on HANS devices, I have bought one for use next season - cos s**t happens.

strat6v
December 3rd, 2007, 02:25 PM
I noticed that too.

It's been an important safety item for a while now, perhaps not as much in the rallying world. Is it seen as being a bit OTT in that discipline?

roger001
December 3rd, 2007, 02:45 PM
I would have thought it would be more important - less run off, more solid things such as walls and trees to hit, we have it relatively easy in circuit racing with, in most casses good run off and/or gravel traps to ease our bumpy landings.

chris.richard
December 3rd, 2007, 03:27 PM
Talk about putting your money where your mouth is; he's putting his neck on the line. Literally. Attaboy Steve!

strat6v
December 3rd, 2007, 04:08 PM
So, you turn up at Abingdon for the sprint, stick the Hans device on, does everybody think your'e a t#at?

Bernard
December 3rd, 2007, 11:51 PM
Best wishes and a speedy recovery..... to my Chatsworth driver !
Phil

chris.richard
December 4th, 2007, 01:14 AM
So, you turn up at Abingdon for the sprint, stick the Hans device on, does everybody think your'e a t#at?
Does the Hans make a difference to that? :p :D

roger001
December 4th, 2007, 01:28 AM
"So, you turn up at Abingdon for the sprint, stick the Hans device on, does everybody think your'e a t#at?"
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All depends on the level of risk you're prepared to accept. ie the what's the risk going to be of a heavy impact, probably not much at Abingdon on a coned airfield course , whre if you get it wrong theres plenty of run off, but its very different when you're in close proximity to solid imovable objemcts, trees/armco etc. bearing in mind the neck is the most vulnerable part of the body ...... My excursion into the armco at cadwell was relatively low speed but these things happen. I have little doubt that they will become compulsory in the too too distant future.

chris.richard
December 7th, 2007, 01:49 AM
Would a Hans fit in a Stratos? The angle I have to have my head at with a helmet on, makes me wonder how restrictive it is. And I'm nowhere near 6'!

strat6v
December 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM
i think there are three different angles of device to choose from :confused:

chris.richard
December 7th, 2007, 09:49 AM
i think there are three different angles of device to choose from :confused:
That's front to back - I have my head tilted to the left!

roger001
December 7th, 2007, 10:17 AM
The HANS comes in 3 different angles primarily dependent on the angle of your seat back, however the issue with the Stratos ( at least with the Hawk) is the position of the seat belt anchor points which are too high and too far apart for adequate positioning and angle of the belts on the device - so if you want to use one in a Hawk you would have to make arrangements for resiting the anchor points.

strat6v
December 7th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Chris, perhaps you could pre dislocate your left shoulder!

SUSIT
December 7th, 2007, 03:27 PM
The HANS comes in 3 different angles primarily dependent on the angle of your seat back, however the issue with the Stratos ( at least with the Hawk) is the position of the seat belt anchor points which are too high and too far apart for adequate positioning and angle of the belts on the device - so if you want to use one in a Hawk you would have to make arrangements for resiting the anchor points.


I did this in my Allora as the mounting points did not line up with the holes in the seats at all. Would suggest it should be a priority on any car

Arthur
December 7th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Being a user of a neck ring on track days, I can say without doubt that the "tw%t" syndrome sticks - and that's before anyone's seen me drive.
I use it cos I'm old enough to remember Charlie Cox going of in a multiple roll in the BTCC, and the neck ring pretty much saved his life then.
The HANS device looks superb, and has been around for many years - only problem for me is the lack of track driving I do these days, and the cost of the device and matching helmet.
If I was doing it regularly, or competing at all, I'd use one, and the hell with the paddock comments.
Tell you what; put a Hans sticky label advert on the car with the cost clearly shown - if it's expensive, and it is, it'll be "the thing to have", and everyone will be wearing them........sponsorship, maybe?

On the CorseI, the shoulder belts come through the seat slots no problem, and that's all that's really needed - should anchor the HANS no problem, though of course you also need 3-inch belts.

Arthur.