Registration

[Cuda-kris77]

I feel like a geek to be bothering you with this stuff, but here goes:
I've been pouring through old posts on the forum as well as homepages on UK vehicle registration legislation, but quite frankly, I'm none the wiser!

SVA, ESVA, MOT, DVLA, VOSA??? :eek:
Uhm, could anyone explain...?

I suppose this is well known to you?
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regrebil.htm

*Are stratos kits generally SVA'd? ESVA'd?
*Does the DVLA do this or do they just register it?
(I suspect you have a separate authority to do the SVA.)
*Is it possible to register stratos kits to a 'higher' standard, i.e subject to 'normal-car legislation' (seems to me this would be ESVA)??
*Have anyone done this?
*How does the age of the car affect what they are registered as?
(are they approved with the registration/compliance they had back then, or have they been re-registered?)
*What does the 'Q-plate' imply?

I'm aware that these are -really- boring questions :o but it would greatly help me to have a more complete understanding of these issues before going into battle with the vehicle authorities over here. Pretty it won't be. :D

If anyone have would share info on their own cars I would be thrilled, particularly older cars registered pre -95 as these seems to be my best option.

Thanks! Any info you can provide me with is greatly appreciated.

KristianH

[Sando]

Hi Kristian
As well as the Piston Heads link that Chris has put on the other thread, try this one too - http://www.totalkitcar.com/tech_registration.php

VOSA is the Vehicle standards agency who do all the testing. Then the DVLA is the body that deals with registration in the UK.

*Are stratos kits generally SVA'd? ESVA'd?
ESVA applies only to production cars. (such as imported cars not destined for uk market)
SVA is the single vehicle approval for amateur built, non mass produced cars.

MOT is a yearly test done by VOSA approved garages to check safety mainly but also the emissions. (based on your registration year / levels specified on the Registration papers)

*Does the DVLA do this or do they just register it?
(I suspect you have a separate authority to do the SVA.)
Yes as above VOSA do the testing, DVLA process and hold all the UK car / driver registration.

*Is it possible to register stratos kits to a 'higher' standard, i.e subject to 'normal-car legislation' (seems to me this would be ESVA)??
Not sure. Everyone else wants to keep it as simple as possible in the UK so they go for the SVA.

*Have anyone done this? Some cars have gone through the SVA and been registered here and then exported (to Holland or Germany I think it was)

*How does the age of the car affect what they are registered as?
(are they approved with the registration/compliance they had back then, or have they been re-registered?)
*What does the 'Q-plate' imply?

These are a bit in depth to explain but I'll try a simple answer. At the moment if you can prove the age of the donor of the engine and gearbox with the original car documentation then when it is SVA'd and registered they take this as the benchmark for both the emissions requirements and then the age of the new registration number issued. :)
A car that has been through SVA and still got a Q plate, is a car where the age of the donor parts was uncertain and couldn't be proved to the satisfaction of both VOSA and the DVLA.

Prior to 1998 and the introduction of the SVA, a similar process was followed to give kit cars a Q registration plate if there were not a certain number of components from a single donor car.

So for instance my car went through the SVA and registration in 2004, but I have a age related plate of 1984 from the original engine and box that it went through the process with.

Hope that clears things a little more for you.

Good luck and hope you get a car on the road over there.

Cheers
Rob

[Cuda-kris77]

Rob,

thanks so much for that detailed post, it made alot of stuff alot clearer!!! :)
I'll be off to visit my local 'DLVA' anytime soon now, guns blazing.. :D

Regards
KristianH

[SUSIT]

Rob,

thanks so much for that detailed post, it made alot of stuff alot clearer!!! :)
I'll be off to visit my local 'DLVA' anytime soon now, guns blazing.. :D

Regards
KristianH


Wow there my man, I note the :D at guns blazing and hope it means your having a laugh!
I have never been to Norway so perhaps am not qualified to say this so don’t take offence as none indented ;)
In my experience in dealing with government depts in this country it pays to take a very steady gentile approach, if not you can find yourself deep in doggies dodo :p
Most official people don’t give a stuff that you are trying to fulfil a dream and if the get their backs up then you end up getting nowhere. And that’s far more upsetting for you than it is them
Keep going I am sure there will be a way round the problem :)

cheers
Stephen

[Cuda-kris77]

Wow there my man, I note the :D at guns blazing and hope it means your having a laugh!
I have never been to Norway so perhaps am not qualified to say this so don’t take offence as none indented ;)
In my experience in dealing with government depts in this country it pays to take a very steady gentile approach, if not you can find yourself deep in doggies dodo :p
Most official people don’t give a stuff that you are trying to fulfil a dream and if the get their backs up then you end up getting nowhere. And that’s far more upsetting for you than it is them
Keep going I am sure there will be a way round the problem :)

cheers
Stephen

Relax Stephen,

I was just having a laugh (though sometimes you just can't help feeling that bringing a baseball bat along is justified)! :D I'm quite the pleasant guy actually :)
I would guess government depts are the same wherever, so I'll try the kiss-ass and buttering-up approach. As long as that helps. When they shoot me down in flames, I'll just have to restrain myself. :D

Actually, recently our 'DVLA' put together a specialist group (the SFOOR, no less...) to handle rebuilds and specialist cars such as kits.
They even went on a field trip to Sweden and the UK to 'educate' themselves on the subject. Upon return, what do they say? 'Nah, we still want to do it they way we've always handled these issues!'
Net effect? We now have a 'specialist' moron to crawl/kneel/beg before...as opposed to the usual, normal moron.
They must have a very rewarding job...

Oh well, I'll give it a try, that's why I've been pestering out with all my questions. It'll help to have all the angles and then some to get this show on the road.

Kristian