Rose Joint Boot Fitting

[Sptwoman]

I've searched but no joy. Does anyone have any tips for fitting the rubber boots that fit over and cover the rose joints?
Gerry advises to fill the boot with CV type grease and with a little help of WD40 they should stretch over the joint and into place, covering and protecting the joint.
Any ideas / tips?

On the rear suspension mounts for the wishbone and tie bar, there is a lower and high mounting choice. Why and what's the best choice?

[guy mayers]

Hi Allen, slip the Rose joint thread through one of the side holes and out the correct hole, apply a little CV joint grease to the surfaces of the Rose Joint and pull the boot over. It will stretch!
The double mounting holes give you different chassis ground clearances. If you intend using th ecar off road than the lower holes will give a little more ground clearance.
Guy

[guy mayers]

When fitting the Rose Joints to the wishbones it's best to run a tap down the threads to clear any of the nylon coating out which will help avoid crossthreading. Don't forget the spacers that fit into the boots either! A useful tip for assembling suspension components where space is limited, especially the front is to preassemble the washers, wishbones, spacers, boots, Rose Joints, spacers and washers on a piece of rod cut to the width of the gap it all fits into. The rod will keep everything in line and can be pushed out using the pivot bars.
Guy

[Sptwoman]

Cheers Guy, thanks for the advise. I didn't want to damage the boots or render them less effective but yes it makes sense re the boot fitment.
Gerry's provided a bag of various length spacers for the rosed mounts so I assume the joint should sit in the middle of the mount bolt. The joint fitting using the correct length rod is a damn good idea, thanks. Also copper grease all round!!
I shall be looking to use the car on the smooth stuff so higher mounts it will be. I'm off now with complete confidence to complete the task,

Regards,

Allen

[Arthur]

Careful with the copper grease, boys - Copaslip and like compounds were originally manufactured as high temperature anti-seize compounds, and do a very poor job of lubricating.
I prefer a Molyslip grease, or my very favourite Dow Corning gN Assembly Compound. I only use colloidal suspensions (copper, copper/lead mixes, and aluminium) as high temp nut and bolt anti-seize. By high temperature, we're looking at exhaust manifolds, turbo-blowers, etc. Anything over about 300 degrees C in fact. Less than that, you'll be better with Moly (moly disulphide bonds to steel at 300 degreesC) or a proper job assembly compound. Don't for God's sake use colloids where you need a lubricant - front wheel bearings spring to mind here; doesn't work well at all, but the number of people who persist is beyond belief.

Oh, while I think, for all you really serious builders out there, who have always harboured a belief that the pro's have a secret supply of parts to which us mere mortals are not privy; here'sthe list of bolts I use on a daily basis in the paying job.

:D

[chris.richard]

:D :D I think Omicron have them on their website!

Here's a treatise on lubricants - it's well worth getting the lab report on the product! :)

read & enjoy (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=66&t=225143&h=0)