Alfa 3000 V6 + other goodies

[Matt No VAT]

Approx 89k miles, 12v Engine, gearbox and ECU wiring loom, all ancils but no ECU £200 - I need to find a home for this asap!

Complete Air-con system for Hawk + lots of extra bits like additional pump, interior trim and ducting - £offers.

Original 15" Minilites 2 x 6.5 fronts, Rears I think are 8's - unmarked, no tyres - £offers.

[CorseChris]

Matt,

Did the A/C system run on R12 or R134a when it was in the car??

If it was R134a I might be interested in it for my Marcos.

Cheers


Chris

[Matt No VAT]

Hi Chris,

To be honest I dont know as it was all out of the car and in boxes when I got it - I can give you makes names and part numbers no probs.

Cheers

Matt

[CorseChris]

Matt,

If I remember right, you said it was ex-Beta?? That would make it R12 for sure, unless it had been updated at some point recently. It would be usual to have had some stickers applied to it to indicate this I think.

Could I bother you for the rough dimensions of the main heat exchanger unit please? Space is somewhat limited in the Marcos so it would make sense to see if I stand a chance of getting it all in before we go any further into the details of which gas it uses. The main problem with converting is that traces of the old gas can remain in the seals apparently, so compressor and all unions have to be overhauled. Can make it a non-starter cost-wise. I have heard of folk just changing the charge ports to the new type and filling it with R134a with fingers crossed.

TIA


Chris

[Matt No VAT]

Will do Chris, I'll reply on here with the results of my findings.

[rutthenut]

Originally posted by Matt No VAT
Original 15" Minilites 2 x 6.5 fronts, Rears I think are 8's - unmarked, no tyres - £offers.

Blimey, more Minilites on offer!

I should check the 'For Sale' forum a bit more often...

Any indications on the wheels as to what offsets they use?

[Matt No VAT]

Okey dokey...

Air Con - is type R12 and would go as a job lot, I have 2 different size compressors SD-505 and the SD-709, pipework that could run the full length of the car and fan system plus the heat exchanger which measures 10" x 17 3/4" , all the internal trim bits oh and theres a dessicant filter.




Minilites - 4 stud standard Fiat/Lancia PCD comes with 16 x wheel bolts, metal valves and Minilite centre caps.

Front are 6.5JK*15CH, also have 12 79D stamped in too.

Rears are 8's, there are no makings denoting the offset so I took a few measurements myself.

These are taken from the rear wheels only.
From the inner hub face to the inner rim edge 130mm.
From the outer hub face to the outer rim edge 85mm.

Tyres that were fitted were Front 205/50/15, Rear 225/50/15.

Wheels etc - £120 plus 4 cans of cold draught Guinness! :D

[rutthenut]

Originally posted by Matt No VAT
Rears are 8's, there are no makings denoting the offset so I took a few measurements myself.

These are taken from the rear wheels only.
From the inner hub face to the inner rim edge 130mm.
From the outer hub face to the outer rim edge 85mm.

With my simple maths, an 8" rim would be 203mm, plus say 27mm for the extra width outside of that, so about 230mm overall.

If that's the case, the 130mm measurement would imply that the hub face is outboard of the wheel centreline (115mm to centre, so 15mm offset from that - negative, I think?).

The wheels I am using are sets with either 7" or 8" width, with the latter having an ET0 specification (zero offset). I would rather have more offset - towards the outside of the car (positive?) - although a simple wheel spacer would more than counteract the 15mm offset I guesstimated above. Not that I really want narrower front wheels, but it's not a major difference when the same tyre sizes are used.

I'll think a bit on this, as the price sounds alright, but if I've got four cold cans of Guinness than you'd perhaps only get the empties!

[Matt No VAT]

Empties? Empties?... B'ah... I only like the full ones!

I took the measurements by laying the wheel down (external face down) and putting a straight edge ruler across the diameter of the inner rim and took the measurement from the hub face (that butts up against the brake disk) to the bottom of the ruler.

Positives/Negatives - I know what you mean but have never learned the correct way to measure offsets :confused:

Anyway I'll leave you to ponder.

[chris.richard]

see http://www.tyresave.co.uk/choose.html (section 5)for diagrams

[Matt No VAT]

Thanks Chris - I seem to have been halfway there - I took the measurement the correct way, working from the diagram mine have a positive offset.

I'll have to check the fronts now.

[rutthenut]

Originally posted by Matt No VAT
Positives/Negatives - I know what you mean but have never learned the correct way to measure offsets

I thought I had this worked out correctly in my mind some years ago, but I'm pretty certain that at least one of the wheel manufacturers has used descriptions the 'wrong way round', just to add to the general confusion. Hence I like to indicate what I mean in some way without just depending on common understanding of the inset/offset definitions.

Thanks anyway

[rutthenut]

Originally posted by Matt No VAT
Minilites - 4 stud standard Fiat/Lancia PCD comes with 16 x wheel bolts, metal valves and Minilite centre caps.

Matt, do you know if these are 'sleeve' type bolts that go with the wheels? 'Cos my car is fitted with wheel studs.

If they appear to be 'normal' wheel bolts, do they have a chamfered mounting face (as for standard Beta wheel bolts), or do they have a different mounting in some way?

What I want to know is whether or not I could use these wheels interchangeably with my current Compomotive alloys. Any idea?

The other thing I may want to know, for this to fit on my current car (the orange one), is the sort of spacing behind the wheelspokes, when compared to the hub mounting face. Not exactly easy to explain, but it determines the clearance for the outboard half of the brake caliper.

You mentioned the 130mm 'backside spacing' for the 8" rears, but I may want to know the figure for this on the front wheels as well as the (larger) figure from the inner rim to the back of the spokes, in the area of the caliper. Don't worry about it for now, as the wheel bolt/stud/nut fittings may rule out these wheels for me.

[CorseChris]

Originally posted by Matt No VAT
Okey dokey...

Air Con - is type R12 and would go as a job lot, I have 2 different size compressors SD-505 and the SD-709, pipework that could run the full length of the car and fan system plus the heat exchanger which measures 10" x 17 3/4" , all the internal trim bits oh and theres a dessicant filter.




Matt,

Sounds interesting. How much were you looking for??


Chris

[Matt No VAT]

Originally posted by rutthenut


Matt, do you know if these are 'sleeve' type bolts that go with the wheels? 'Cos my car is fitted with wheel studs.

If they appear to be 'normal' wheel bolts, do they have a chamfered mounting face (as for standard Beta wheel bolts), or do they have a different mounting in some way?



John, I have taken pics of the bolts and the wheels - email me direct and I'll forward them on so you can have a look.

(Sorry for the delay - work on the house has taken up a lot of time and also the recent loss of one of my best friends.)

[CorseChris]

Originally posted by CorseChris


Matt,

Sounds interesting. How much were you looking for??


Chris

Matt,

Looks like the Marcos is sold....



...so 'no thank you' on the A/C parts.

Thanks anyway


Chris