help and advice

[simont]

Can any member help. I am building a corse i, the car was purchased from Dave Watson about Two years ago, i bet you wish you had kept it now Dave !! The chassis is designed to take a Hodda V6 but having seen. heard and read about Alfa V6 24v power I want to change the car to this. Last year at Abingdon a club member (didn't catch his name ) said the chassis I bought was a narrow type and would not be wide enough in the engine bay to accept a Alfa engine.
Where I need a bit of help is ;
1)Has any member any knoweledge about this chassis and was a corse built with a "narrow" engine bay for the Honda engine?
2) Has any member any drawings or measurements for the Alfa v6 24v that details the mountings and mounting locations that would allow me to check the engine bay widths and to possibly check the viability of fitting of the Alfa engine.
Yours in total confusion.

[chris.richard]

Doesn't sound right to me. You have a PM.

Edited coz I think I've managed to paste here, Fingers crossed!

[chris.richard]

Alfa mountings in plan view. 12v & 24v are the same.

[chris.richard]

front of engine bay dimensions.

Credits to Scott McGill for providing me with the diagrams.

[simont]

Chris thanks for the info, sorry to sound a bit thick , but whats a PM? To me it usually signals time for the first drink!!
May be a bit slow in responding to further posts as I am away for the rest of the week.

[simont]

Chris thanks for the info, sorry to sound a bit thick , but whats a PM? To me it usually signals time for the first drink!!
May be a bit slow in responding to further posts as I am away for the rest of the week.

[SUSIT]

PM stands for personal message. Each registered member to the forum can send a pm to another member that cannot be seen by anybody else. Click the box marked pm at the bottom of the page and you will see your own box. It defults to your inbox. Like email it has an in and out box with some other useful options.
Hope this helps.
On your other matter I have never come across a narrow version of any of the cars. Always remember you have a Corse I and a lot of the information on the forum is related to Hawks, there will be some differences between the two. There is also the Allora that I have as well as variations on the Hawk and Corse.

Hope I have not confused you even more.

Stephen Struthers

[vojx]

I have a Honda V6, and got the impression from STeve Greenwood that almost the whole engine bay was different to the Alfa version. I could be wrong.

But whats wrong with the Honda? To me it sounds more like a racing engine than the Alfa, between 4000 and 6500 rpm it feels like its in its sweet spot, and the gearchange is extremely fast and precise.

[Marmott]

You are correct there is a differance in the two chassis , nothing that cannot be modified on your car to enable the Alfa to fit , but you need to cut out certain tubes and weld them back in a differant position.
Use the Honda or Rover V6 , sounds awful to me but I prefer the Italian origins.
They are better engines though, my opinion !
The Alfa is cheap to buy , cheap on spares . not very powerful , for its size , and reliable.
If you can weld , its an easy conversion to your chassis.
I have a friend in France who has an I chassis , with an turbo 4 cylinder engine , having tried my V6 he obtained an Alfa engine and found out the hard way
Unfortunately he does not weld so its back to 4 cylinders.
But I have his V6 now as a spare, for the spare , oops she has seen the pile growing bigger

[vojx]

Originally posted by Marmott
Use the Honda or Rover V6 , sounds awful to me but I prefer the Italian origins.
They are better engines though, my opinion !

On my videos of real Stratos's, the engine sounds rather more like my Honda than any Alfa. :eek:

Alfa engine is better? Italian better than Jap? I guess I could blow up the peakier Jap engine earlier than the torquier Alfa. If I were to upgrade, I'd go for an NSX engine. . . :p

[Marmott]

Im sorry you missunderstand me , I think the Honda and old Rover engines are better, but I prefer to remain "Italian engine "
as more representative of its kind
The Alfa is heavy , lazy , underpowered for its size, but generally reliable and cheep.
Each to his own.
The torque of the Alfa has got me out of many a situation when in competition, but its also a pain when it doesnt rev as standard , is a tall V, etc

[colin artus]

In standard form the Honda 2.7l is 63bhp/ltr while the Alfa ranges from 66 to 76bhp/ltr depending on the model. The honda is no lightweight either; have you noticed that lump of cast iron onthe top masquerading as an alternator mount?
On the older Alfa v6 engines the rev limiter was a spring loaded cutout in the rotor arm which wasnt very precise but easily modded to give the 7000rpm that the engine is easily capable of. Also are you making the comparison between the 24v Honda and the 12v Alfa?

Colin

[Mark Cowling]

The lump of cast iron that is a alt mount is of that strength on a standard Honda because it doubles as a engine mount, seems a good idea to get a component to do more than one job to me,if not using it as a engine mount you can always half its weight like I just have done by drilling and reshaping. Regards Mark.

[Mark Cowling]

I do also agree that a Italian replica would be better with a Italian heart, but the V on the Alfa engine is not wide enough to accept downdraught carbs cross banked as per origanal where as the Honda is. Regards Mark.

[Chris J]

Mark

Are you still running the Honda engine?